From that point on, I started to build up these walls to protect myself.Īnd that first act of being less enamored in medicine and finding the true stress and fear and difficulty of dealing with life and death was the first crack in the wall of many things that eventually led to a lot of burnout for me with the practice of medicine. And it was this moment in medicine that changed me forever. And it was this horrible, horrible feeling. So, I had to tell them over the phone that he died. It turned out the family that had come to see me was his new family, but he had three daughters from a previous marriage who had no idea what happened to him.
WORKING TWO POINT HOSPITAL CRACK SERIES
And after his family left, I got a series of calls the next morning. Remember, me, the second-year resident, I was the most senior physician in the hospital at that time, and I talked to the family, and they seemed to understand this was an elderly man and he was very sick, and he died. And I remember having this discussion with the family as they came in at 1:00 in the morning. And one of the patients that had been handed off to me went into respiratory distress and I tried my best to put a breathing tube down or intubate the patient. In the ICU, we took care of the sickest of the sick patients. I was a second-year resident, and I was left alone in the ICU at night, which was normal for second-year residents.
There was a moment during residency where it really hit home. You have to remember that when you're in college and even in the beginning of medical school, I think just like in most professions, you don't really know what it is. Grumet: There were several points where I realized that although I had always thought I wanted to be a doctor, it didn't fit me always as well as I expected. Can you talk about some of the pivotal moments for you on that journey? Ptak: As you advanced in your career in medicine, you began to draw some conclusions about how your dad's death had affected some major life decisions you made subsequently. And so, I can't really remember a time in my life where I didn't expect to become a physician. I couldn't explain why he died, but I could certainly tell myself the story that I was meant to walk in his footsteps to carry the torch for him, so to speak. In fact, as I got older, it became the rationale in my brain for why this strange, unexpected thing had happened to me. And when he died, it made concrete in me this idea that I would follow in his footsteps. He was an oncologist, and I wanted to be just like him. And, of course, I was enamored by the occupation that he cared so much about, which was being a cancer doctor. It was at that magical time when I wanted to be just like my father. He was put on life support, which we decided to remove a few days later. It got severe through the day and then he collapsed. He had a brain aneurysm and literally went to work with a mild headache. Grumet: My father died suddenly when I was 7 years old. You trained as a doctor, and in the book, you discuss how your father's death drew you to that profession. We wanted to start by discussing your origin story. I'm excited for this conversation.īenz: We're excited to have you here. Jordan Grumet: Well, thank you so much for having me. Jordan received his undergraduate degree from the University of Michigan and his medical degree from Northwestern University. In it, he shares lessons that he has learned from interacting with patients during the last parts of their lives.
Jordan's latest book is called Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor's Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life. He also hosts the popular Earn & Invest podcast, which he launched after years of blogging about financial independence and wellness at the website,. Jordan is a physician and an associate medical director at Journe圜are Hospice. Jeff Ptak: And I'm Jeff Ptak, chief ratings officer for Morningstar Research Services.īenz: Our guest on the podcast today is Jordan Grumet. I'm Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar. I'm Jeff Ptak, chief ratings officer for Morningstar Research Services.Ĭhristine Benz: And I'm Christine Benz, director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar.Ĭhristine Benz: Hi, and welcome to The Long View. Jeff Ptak: Hi, and welcome to The Long View.
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